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translation, the debt ceiling deal didn't do enough about the debt itself. so keep this in mind when you hear it said,be with great certainty it's the republicans trying to force spending cuts over endangering the nation credit rating. as will rogers quoted once, "it isn'tbe what we don't know that gives us trouble. it's what we know that ain't so." bret? >> bret: the president has effectively turned the messaging around. by saying it's about paying the bills that congress has already passed. the laws that it's already passed. republicans are saying it's about borrowing authority. essentially running up the country's credit card. >> exactly. what the republicans are saying is look, we maxed out the credit card. it's time before we extend any new credit or allow any new credit to do something aboutbe the spending that got us here. that would seem on the surface to be a reasonable argument. but so far, the republicans have not been able to win it. and what tends to happen in the fights when you get all of this late hour melodrama as we have had in the last cou
translation, the debt ceiling deal didn't do enough about the debt itself. so keep this in mind when you hear it said,be with great certainty it's the republicans trying to force spending cuts over endangering the nation credit rating. as will rogers quoted once, "it isn'tbe what we don't know that gives us trouble. it's what we know that ain't so." bret? >> bret: the president has effectively turned the messaging around. by saying it's about paying the bills that congress has...
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president obama is warning that a political deadlock over the nation's debt ceiling could damage the u.s. economy and beyond. it's estimated without the deal the government could run out of money to pail its bills as early as mid-february. the president said the idea of refusing to raise the debt ceiling is irresponsible and absurd. >> republicans in congress have two choices here. they can act responsibly and pay america's bills are act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. but they will not collect a ransom for not crashing the american economy. >> shep: they say they won't support raising the debt limit and there a battle line. the debt ceiling is the maximum amount of money that the united states can borrow. the law requires congress to control and authorize any money needed to pay for federal programs. debt ceiling was introduced way back in world war one. it was meant to give the treasury department more spending at that time. wendall goler, the president seemed that he was willing to call the republicans' bluff on this thing. >> he won't collect ransom
president obama is warning that a political deadlock over the nation's debt ceiling could damage the u.s. economy and beyond. it's estimated without the deal the government could run out of money to pail its bills as early as mid-february. the president said the idea of refusing to raise the debt ceiling is irresponsible and absurd. >> republicans in congress have two choices here. they can act responsibly and pay america's bills are act irresponsibly and put america through another...
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they are hoping the timing will be better to deal with the sequestration with the debt ceiling but that is cosmetics. john is right. the premise of your question is right. this is a party that lost its way, lost its vision, lost its approach and the president is trying --. >>gregg: the president's approval rating is 53 percent and negative 48 percent and that is almost the lowest of any second-term president in six decades. nixon did better than that. however, look at the house of representatives republicans. they are showing disapproval rating at 73 percent. >> they have been perceived at negative, out of touch positions that are not popular. >>gregg: gay rights and tax rights? >> and they fit into the demonization they are protecting the rights of the rich. >> they do not have a pro growth agenda, creating jobs, they do not have a message. >>gregg: and the republican party is out of touch according to six in ten. five in ten, they rank poor on climate change and women's issue. >> there is a center right agenda that is solid majority of the american people buy into, but bottom line, th
they are hoping the timing will be better to deal with the sequestration with the debt ceiling but that is cosmetics. john is right. the premise of your question is right. this is a party that lost its way, lost its vision, lost its approach and the president is trying --. >>gregg: the president's approval rating is 53 percent and negative 48 percent and that is almost the lowest of any second-term president in six decades. nixon did better than that. however, look at the house of...
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in the coming weeks as they deal with the debt ceiling. also, those automatic cuts to defense and domestic spending. plenty more battles ahead over spending, shep. >> shepard: mike emanuel on the hill. the bill has passed and the president will sign it into law. two weeks after congress approved a separate measure to borrow $10 billion to flood insurance claims from sandy and other disasters. throughout the areas sandy hit hardest we are hearing stories of people growing increasingly frustrated in delays by getting money they need. >> the whole outside of the house was ripped apart with waves. >> the waves washed out 16 years of family mementos from this water front house on new york's long island. >> what you see is exactly how we found it after the hurricane. >> jane long-term says she will -- letterman says she will have to tear down the home she loved. two months after the storm she is still waiting for the insurance payment to get her started. >> this is a shame. it's just a shame that, you know, this had to happen. but the thing to d
in the coming weeks as they deal with the debt ceiling. also, those automatic cuts to defense and domestic spending. plenty more battles ahead over spending, shep. >> shepard: mike emanuel on the hill. the bill has passed and the president will sign it into law. two weeks after congress approved a separate measure to borrow $10 billion to flood insurance claims from sandy and other disasters. throughout the areas sandy hit hardest we are hearing stories of people growing increasingly...
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jay carney at the white house called for passing a clean debt limit deal without delay. leading republicans are saying without a budget that includes a real plan to reduce the deficit, the nation faces the threat of a credit downgrade. bret? >> bret: mike, thank you. sticking with the tet and deficit issues, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are talking about what to do in a worse case scenario. the government not having enough money to pay its bills. chief political correspondent carl cameron reports on a possible short-term solution that is getting a long look by some people. >> with the white house refusing to negotiate spending cuts and the democrat controlled senate unlikely to pass a budget as part of a long-term deal to raise the tet ceiling, pat toomey of pennsylvania is reintroducing legislation he says will avert the u.s. from defaulting on the debt. >> we must prioritize three categories of payments. one would be debt service, interest on the debt so we would haven't default. a second would be social curt payment to seniors so they don't worry whether the c
jay carney at the white house called for passing a clean debt limit deal without delay. leading republicans are saying without a budget that includes a real plan to reduce the deficit, the nation faces the threat of a credit downgrade. bret? >> bret: mike, thank you. sticking with the tet and deficit issues, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are talking about what to do in a worse case scenario. the government not having enough money to pay its bills. chief political correspondent carl...
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and so, yes, something like, we'll accept the debt ceiling for as long as you're willing to hold obamacare in abeyance. the president is not going for that. here is what they know, they have to have something on offer, because they got creamed on the tax issue, nothing on offer, no chips in the game. they had extension of tax rates, but they weren't passing anything, sitting around and pounding the table and weren't saying this is what we have. now it's up to john boehner and his team to coax out of this conference, who is very skeptical of him because of the deal he did on the tax rates and they look at him askance and what do you want to do, obamacare, the health care law and other things that might include giving the president a debt ceiling increase until the end of his term if he's willing to agree in big changes in entitlement programs. they've got to come up with something. >> megyn: they have to come up with a game plan. we saw with the fiscal cliff negotiations the end of the year they were divided and boehner couldn't sort of corral his house republicans to be on the same page an
and so, yes, something like, we'll accept the debt ceiling for as long as you're willing to hold obamacare in abeyance. the president is not going for that. here is what they know, they have to have something on offer, because they got creamed on the tax issue, nothing on offer, no chips in the game. they had extension of tax rates, but they weren't passing anything, sitting around and pounding the table and weren't saying this is what we have. now it's up to john boehner and his team to coax...
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ceiling. the deal not all worked out just yet. but apparently it this will not require the spending cuts that house republicans had wanted. just released fox news poll finds that 69% favor raising the debt limit only if there are major spending cuts involved. and 23% say it's reckless not to raise it regardless. the poll also shows more than 8 in 10 think government spending is out of control. only 11% believes it's being managed carefully. mike immanuel tracking developments on the hill tonight. what's behind this house republican plan. >> bill, a lot of g.o.p. frustration has been based on the fact the senate has not passed a budget. so republicans are trying to force it house speaker john boehner told house members, quote: before there is any long-term debt alowe time for a budget to get done. >> he our hope is to pass something very early so the senate can take action as well. i wouldn't put any jeopardizing of the economy there. shows that it is a very rational, put us on a better path an
ceiling. the deal not all worked out just yet. but apparently it this will not require the spending cuts that house republicans had wanted. just released fox news poll finds that 69% favor raising the debt limit only if there are major spending cuts involved. and 23% say it's reckless not to raise it regardless. the poll also shows more than 8 in 10 think government spending is out of control. only 11% believes it's being managed carefully. mike immanuel tracking developments on the hill...
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they could default on the debt, unless the debt ceiling is raised. republicans want the president to cut spending before they i gree on a deal. but the president at no time seem eager for compromise. listen. >> we have to stop lurking from crisis to crisis to crisis. when there is a clear pass that requires discipline, responsibility and compromise. >> dana: yet, he showed little willingness to do so. >> i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce the deficit, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have racked up. what i will not do is to have that negotiation with gun at the head of the people. >> dana: interesting choice of words to describe that. eric, you talked about not wanting the country to lurch from crisis to crisis. most americans would agree and want washington to fix fundamental problems. why do we have to have the debate every three months? >> eric: sure. start with the debt ceiling and how it came about. prior to world war i, everybody was paid
they could default on the debt, unless the debt ceiling is raised. republicans want the president to cut spending before they i gree on a deal. but the president at no time seem eager for compromise. listen. >> we have to stop lurking from crisis to crisis to crisis. when there is a clear pass that requires discipline, responsibility and compromise. >> dana: yet, he showed little willingness to do so. >> i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce the...
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ceiling. >> so i want to be clear about this, the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending, it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. >> mike: well, according to the congressional record, in 2006, then senator barack obama had this statement just before a debt ceiling vote and i quote, the fact that we are here today to debate raising america's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure, it's a sign that the u.s. government can't pay its own bills, it's a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our government's reckless fiscal policies. leadership means that the buck stops here. instead, washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today on the backs of our children and grandchildren, therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase america's debt limit. in 2008, candidate obama blamed president bush and called the growing debt unpatriotic. >> number 43 added 4 trillion dollars by his lonesome so that we no
ceiling. >> so i want to be clear about this, the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending, it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. >> mike: well, according to the congressional record, in 2006, then senator barack obama had this statement just before a debt ceiling vote and i quote, the fact that we are here today to debate raising america's debt limit is a...
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how are some of the top republicans responding to president obama on this debt ceiling issue? >> reporter: well, jon, republicans are clearly uncomfortable with prominent democrats already talking about a tax increase when you consider the fiscal cliff deal raised taxes and every worker with a payroll tax hiring expiring and raised taxes on upper income americans even further, check your pay stub. a leading republican says responding to the president what's critical is getting spending under control. >> it's a compelling message saying we ned to pay the bills we've racked up. of it messes the whole point again. think of it in terms of a credit card. in you have a son or daughter who exceeds the limit, the first thing you do is rip up the card, the second thing you do is you say you need to change your spending habits. >> reporter: they say we need to a just what bills we are paying and how they are paying. jon: the issue of depending on disaster relief could provide tkraeupl drama there on capitol hill. >> reporter: speaker john boehner promised that the house would take up sa
how are some of the top republicans responding to president obama on this debt ceiling issue? >> reporter: well, jon, republicans are clearly uncomfortable with prominent democrats already talking about a tax increase when you consider the fiscal cliff deal raised taxes and every worker with a payroll tax hiring expiring and raised taxes on upper income americans even further, check your pay stub. a leading republican says responding to the president what's critical is getting spending...
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>> nervous about the debt ceiling and sequestration that hurtd g.d.p. and the fiscal deal. again, everyone wants deficit reduction. they do not want debt pour on. >> do you believe there is still an appetite to cut spending? this is a walkway that will connect the white house and the reviewing stand and the motorcade is going to the south side of the white house behind the white house, and the back of this building right now and they go to the white house to this walkway just to get to this reviewing stand. you are looking at there and seeing what, robert? it seems like more gamesmanship in both sides with a brief window. >> the economy is better, that is clear. housing is coming back. there is alignment between the business community and the priorities of the executive office. immigration reform. education. corporate tax reform. we need the other things we mentioned, the debt ceiling happened first. otherwise, this is going to be an uncertain year. >> why didn't you get picked if treasury? ing in against jack lew but they need guys like you. >> i am very flattered. fox sho
>> nervous about the debt ceiling and sequestration that hurtd g.d.p. and the fiscal deal. again, everyone wants deficit reduction. they do not want debt pour on. >> do you believe there is still an appetite to cut spending? this is a walkway that will connect the white house and the reviewing stand and the motorcade is going to the south side of the white house behind the white house, and the back of this building right now and they go to the white house to this walkway just to get...
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maybe a bit of an olive branch saying three month extension in the debt ceiling would enable them to come to some sort of a deal not without caveats on spending. turk turk tied to. the budget. the senate hasn't in three years. unless the senate comes up with a budget by april 15th. no more pay for members of congress. which might be a stimulus of its own kind. >> alisyn: there is a new fox news poll about how americans are feeling about this. all of our budget battles. here is the question we asked. is government spending being managed carefully or out of control? not surprisingly now 83% of you say that it is out of control verses just 11% who say it's managed carefully and those numbers have become more extreme in the past two and three years. >> here is another big question we asked you fox news poll should the debt limit be raised again? of course it's been raised every year. the majority of you said only after major cuts are put in place. 69%. yes, it would be reckless not to raise the debt ceiling. >> which of course is president obama's position, 23% one there because he says
maybe a bit of an olive branch saying three month extension in the debt ceiling would enable them to come to some sort of a deal not without caveats on spending. turk turk tied to. the budget. the senate hasn't in three years. unless the senate comes up with a budget by april 15th. no more pay for members of congress. which might be a stimulus of its own kind. >> alisyn: there is a new fox news poll about how americans are feeling about this. all of our budget battles. here is the...
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on not slamming-- or raising the debt ceiling, just the tone, jay carney saying he's encouraged and the republicans trying to beat a deadline and things might be different. >> sure, i don't think anyone in this town is under any illusion, and magically the republicans and democrats are coming together and solve all of these big problems and singing kumbayah. but there are a host of things where they want to come together and find some common ground and the debt ceiling might be one of them, but the republicans have some caveats to that and want to make sure that the senate democrats pass a budget. something they haven't done in the last four years and put some heat on the democrats right there. even as both sides are talking about coming together on some of this, there's going to be an edge to it as well. let's not forget the president is still dealing with high unemployment. and wants to focus on gun control, immigration reform and get those done in the second term and still got things left over from the first term. stubbornly high unemployment said he's going to cut the budget def
on not slamming-- or raising the debt ceiling, just the tone, jay carney saying he's encouraged and the republicans trying to beat a deadline and things might be different. >> sure, i don't think anyone in this town is under any illusion, and magically the republicans and democrats are coming together and solve all of these big problems and singing kumbayah. but there are a host of things where they want to come together and find some common ground and the debt ceiling might be one of...
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with the debt ceiling as l. i spoke to one of the president's closest advisers who told me, point blank, the president has told him, he knows he has about a year to get the big things done. then he becomes a lame duck and then you have to start shifting more and more toward foreign policy, traveling around the world. on the domestic agend ahe has a very short time before he becomes a lame duck. >> the president's inaugural address tomorrow is a tradition that dates back to george washington in 1789. the president plans to look ahead more than back in the speech. let's get some insight from the wall street journal columnist. what are your thoughts on what the president needs to say in order to be most effective, to best set himself up, going into the next four years? >> reporter: well, i don't know. we will find out what he and his aides have decided about that, just about 24 hours from now. i think a second inaugural address is always a little bit difficult, you know? a first inaugural, everybody's new and excit
with the debt ceiling as l. i spoke to one of the president's closest advisers who told me, point blank, the president has told him, he knows he has about a year to get the big things done. then he becomes a lame duck and then you have to start shifting more and more toward foreign policy, traveling around the world. on the domestic agend ahe has a very short time before he becomes a lame duck. >> the president's inaugural address tomorrow is a tradition that dates back to george...
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and the credit agencies say they are going to lower our ratings but not because of the debt ceiling, but because they want a credible deficit reduction plan, and the president doesn't seem to be interested in actually coming up with a credible way to deal with the amount of spending we are doing in this country. bill: if that is the says, doyoo many me, do you think it can get through the senate. >> i imagine harry reid under the direction of the president will try to block these things. i'm going to continue to cosponsor senator haopl me's plan. we have a spending problem in this country. they know it in wyoming, families have to balance their budget every year. many states do. we do in wyoming. it's time for this senate and the house and the president to get serious about limiting our spending and specifically the wasteful spending that continues. in the last hour stewart varney and martha talked about some of the abuses that continue to go on. people know that their tax dollars are being wasted. we need to get the spending under control. bill: two days ago brit hume told us this w
and the credit agencies say they are going to lower our ratings but not because of the debt ceiling, but because they want a credible deficit reduction plan, and the president doesn't seem to be interested in actually coming up with a credible way to deal with the amount of spending we are doing in this country. bill: if that is the says, doyoo many me, do you think it can get through the senate. >> i imagine harry reid under the direction of the president will try to block these things....
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the federal debt ceiling both sides are trying to prepare for and even avert a potential default. white house says if it happens it will pay revenue to pay bills in order they are received what you said. for the past year, pennsylvania senator pat toomey and handful of others in the house and senate are pushing legislation would prioritize which bills get paid. arguing if you pay the interest first on the debt, default can be avoided and there would be enough money left over from incoming revenues to pay social security checks and salary for active duty military. that is what the republicans are pushing. that is what toomey is trying to say would be a good way to go for the last year-and-a-half, jon. jon: what is the reaction to the administration, or the administration's reaction i should say to what senator toomey is proposing? >> reporter: somewhere between dismissive and ridicule. the treasury department dump all over this the administration official position legislation to quote, prioritize payments would amount to default and bring the same sort of catastrophic economic cons
the federal debt ceiling both sides are trying to prepare for and even avert a potential default. white house says if it happens it will pay revenue to pay bills in order they are received what you said. for the past year, pennsylvania senator pat toomey and handful of others in the house and senate are pushing legislation would prioritize which bills get paid. arguing if you pay the interest first on the debt, default can be avoided and there would be enough money left over from incoming...
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lew is not is chummy with republicans on the hill after the debt ceiling negotiation back in 2011. for that reason and others, his confirmation hearing could be bumpy. if confirmed, he will be dealing with the top issue in this second term, how to get the economy moving and addressing the country's long term fiscal problems. >> this is a president that is forced to grapple with the budget woes, with the economy that cannot get over the hump. it will consume most of his time, i believe, in the second term. >> what he cannot do going into the term is go from economic crisis to economic crisis. that is not leadership. he has to figure out how to address this in ay way. our health care reform cannot waste, must not wait and will not wait another year. >> passing health care legislation early on was high on the president's to-do list. he picked kansas governor to head up health and human services, to get health care legislation done he largely passed control over to congress to put the bill together and to figure out how to get it through. it became a messy process about 2,000-plus-page
lew is not is chummy with republicans on the hill after the debt ceiling negotiation back in 2011. for that reason and others, his confirmation hearing could be bumpy. if confirmed, he will be dealing with the top issue in this second term, how to get the economy moving and addressing the country's long term fiscal problems. >> this is a president that is forced to grapple with the budget woes, with the economy that cannot get over the hump. it will consume most of his time, i believe, in...
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we'll show you his response and look at what that could mean for the gun debate, the debt ceiling and the rest. >> most people who know me know i'm a pretty friendly guy. and i like a good party. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes. turn your world upside down with gillette fusion proglide because you can shave against the grain with comfort with our thinnest blades. our most comfortable shave or twice your money back. gillette, the best a man can get. but, dad, you've got... [ voice of dennis ] allstate. with accident forgiveness, they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. [ voice of dennis ] indeed. are you in good hands? >> fox news alert. we're getting new warnings about the u.s. credit rating as the debate intensifies over the raising the country's debt ceiling. our credit limit. fi
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ceiling in his mind. if he doesn't create spending or a spending cut, what happens? we've come to a stand still? >> look, the first move, the house republicans, the house has to move first, and i think we've got to show the country we're serious about curbing back spending and we've got to send that over to the senate and the senate has to act. remember, it's more than three or four years now since the senate has actually passed a budget. not only do we have problems getting a budget out of the white house, but the democrats are producing-- >> you're working this out for me. you send it over to the senate, what happens. >> the classic let's not wait till the deadline. the senate has to act. if week show in the house we're acting responsibly, curbing back spending and putting ourselves on a trajectory and cutting the deficit and over the course of time balancing the budget we'll be the responsible party. >> greta: the president says he's not going to do that. >> the president says i'll be irrelevant. >> gr
ceiling in his mind. if he doesn't create spending or a spending cut, what happens? we've come to a stand still? >> look, the first move, the house republicans, the house has to move first, and i think we've got to show the country we're serious about curbing back spending and we've got to send that over to the senate and the senate has to act. remember, it's more than three or four years now since the senate has actually passed a budget. not only do we have problems getting a budget out...
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debt ceiling crisis in august of 2011 when used on both sides of the aisle, when we reach the point the united states didn't have anymore borrowing authority that automatically meant default. it doesn't. that was a false definition then. it is a false definition now. we have enough money to operate essential components of this government that we can go on for a very long time. this isn't a crisis that hits a deadline that turns it into default. furthermore the economy of the united states, if we continue on this trillion dollar plus a year increase in our national debt does eventually hit a place of insolvency. that is what i fear. that is what most conservatives fear, martha. martha: but the president is basically saying to you, and the rest of the republicans in the house, that he is going to raise the debt limit. that the debt limit is going up. there won't be any negotiations over spending cuts that might offset that increase. there is going to be no negotiation. so what will you do? >> first of all i don't think the president can stay out of the dialogue because he was in it ye
debt ceiling crisis in august of 2011 when used on both sides of the aisle, when we reach the point the united states didn't have anymore borrowing authority that automatically meant default. it doesn't. that was a false definition then. it is a false definition now. we have enough money to operate essential components of this government that we can go on for a very long time. this isn't a crisis that hits a deadline that turns it into default. furthermore the economy of the united states, if...
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you as a member of the senate voted against a debt ceiling increase and in previous aspects of american history president reagan in 1985, president george herbert walker bush, president clinton, in 1997 all signed deficit reduction deals were contingent mon or in con connection with raising the don't ceiling. you done that four times. three times related to defecit reduction and maneuvers. what chuck and i are curious about that desire not to negotiate, when that contrasts with the modern american presidents and your own history on the debt ceiling because that suggests we will go into a default situation because no one is talking to each other how to resolve this? >> no, major. i think if you look at the history, getting votes for the debt ceiling is always difficult and budgets in this town are always difficult. i went through this just last year, but what's different is we never saw a situation as we saw last year in which certain groups in congress took such an absolutist position, that we came within, a few days of defaulting. and you know, the fact of the matter is, that we have n
you as a member of the senate voted against a debt ceiling increase and in previous aspects of american history president reagan in 1985, president george herbert walker bush, president clinton, in 1997 all signed deficit reduction deals were contingent mon or in con connection with raising the don't ceiling. you done that four times. three times related to defecit reduction and maneuvers. what chuck and i are curious about that desire not to negotiate, when that contrasts with the modern...